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Virginia Smith's avatar

Love this! Thank you ❤️

God_picked_up_the_pieces_of_me's avatar

I see your point yes. But then how do explain narcissists who also happen to have come through trauma? Is it not clearer to say some trauma survivors come out as empaths and aome as narcissists? The spiritual part of it is what determines which one they will emerge as. Spiritual part known as grace. Anyway, just adding my thoughts

Human Psychology's avatar

Trauma can lead to different outcomes. Whether someone becomes an empath or a narcissist, maybe that’s where grace or awareness comes in.

God_picked_up_the_pieces_of_me's avatar

Grace is spiritual though right? Which I think is different from awareness. Because narcissists can be shown their deeds and effects and even accept it and apologise, but it still doesn't embed in them. Some are aware they are damaging yet keep at it. That is why I am suggesting that it is a spiritual gift to be the one who empathises with others. Otherwise all of us trauma survivors could end up either all narcissists or all empaths. It doesn't look spiritual at a glance, but I definitely think it's an externally influenced (God influenced, thus spiritual) posture one finds themself in even after surviving trauma. Same sun that hardens clay melts wax right. I am trying to say that it has to be wax or clay BEFORE the sun (trauma) exposure. They are empaths with or without trauma. Trauma just solidifies their already existing life posture. Like training for already determined future kings or queens. ( Hoping this example doesn't cone across as trying to give them elevated status) The gifts of the empaths may not be blatantly-out -there mystical gifts, but they are made of a different material from before they are born even… I think. That's what makes them special. They are born with an assignment already, then trauma schooled to reinforce that assignment. Could be wrong, but after working with kids and having my own, I notice inclinations from a very young age.

sara's avatar

splendid. give me 10 more

Human Psychology's avatar

Thank you so much sara.

sara's avatar

you’re welcome! this was amazing. i loved it!

Julia T.'s avatar

The distinction you draw between true empathy and survival-based scanning is one most spiritual spaces actively avoid — because it's easier to feel chosen than to feel shaped by circumstance.

What stays with me is the identity function you name. "Empath" offers coherence. It turns an exhausting pattern into a gift. That reframe is psychologically useful, until it becomes a ceiling.

The line that landed hardest: the ego prefers mystical identity over wounded child. That's a lot of therapy compressed into one sentence.